Today’s edition of The Kona Edge takes us to Brisbane, Australia where we meet Jarrod Harvey. He shares the benefits of growing up in a large family and the challenges of returning to triathlon after a break from his youth. This is his Ironman Kona story.
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BRAD BROWN: Welcome onto yet another edition of The Kona Edge. I’m Brad Brown, it’s awesome to have you with us, thank you for listening. We had some great feedback from our story last week. Brilliant, brilliant story when we headed to Norway to catch up with Hans Christian, Age Group World Champion here on the podcast. If you haven’t listened to that yet do yourself a favour go back and check it out.
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We head to Brisbane now, just outside Brisbane to catch up with Jarrod Harvey on The Kona Edge. Jarrod welcome onto the podcast. thanks for joining us today.
JARROD HARVEY: Thanks for having me Brad.
BRAD BROWN: Jarrod it’s great to catch up. I love chatting to triathletes pretty much from every single corner of the world and you being in Australia, climate and that is very similar to what we experience here in Cape Town. There are worse places on the planet to live and train for triathlons than Brisbane where you live, it’s a great part of the world isn’t it?
JARROD HARVEY: Yea it is. During the summer we get really good weather. We get good daylight so you can fit a lot of training in and as you said it’s pretty good conditions for most racing around the world. You can get a lot of good training in and be confident that’ll set yourself up conditions wise for most places in the world so yea, it could be worse.
BRAD BROWN: It can get pretty hot and humid and muggy there as well which is great for a race like Kona which we’re going to chat about quite a bit later. You’ve almost got a bit of an unfair advantage although it’s Southern hemisphere it’s winter because you’re in the Southern hemisphere when you’re training for Kona but you get to spend a lot of time in those sort of conditions.
Good training sets up your confidence
JARROD HARVEY: Yea that’s right. The timing of Kona is not great from Queensland perspective, we’re kind of coming out of their winter. But often in Queensland where we’re at as well, we get the afternoon storms and then the next day the humidity is just through the roof. But we get used to those sort of conditions and I think in the last year, definitely helped having trained in those conditions and just getting used to sweating all the time and just being uncomfortable in those conditions really helped.
BRAD BROWN: Getting comfortable being uncomfortable, I think is probably the best way to sum it up. Jarrod, let’s take a step back and talk about you growing up and sporting sort of achievements and what you got up to as a youngster. I know most Aussies do play a lot of sport growing up. Were you no different?
JARROD HARVEY: No, pretty much at school I tried my hand at everything. I really liked cross-country running. I was very, very tiny as a kid so running, I was a terrible sprinter, but long distance, anything probably over 1500 I just absolutely love. Then my older brother did a triathlon once and I went along to watch with Dad and [inaudible] and at the time I was a terrible swimmer. I was a terrible swimmer until I was about 22 or 23. I really liked the variety of triathlon and Mom and Dad really supporting me, probably 45 minutes away from any other sort of major [inaudible] in the bush and Dad drive us in to do training and things, but it was triathlon that I got hooked on.
The prodigal returns…
I had a bit of success as a youngster and made Queensland schools teams and things like that. But when I left school I kind of had just done too much too early and I just was a little bit sick of it, so I stopped it then pretty briefly. Then had a dabble around in AFL for a little while. Played a bit of AFL around Brisbane, and then at 23 I actually saw footage of Josh Amberger racing. And I remember back in the Queensland schools teams days and I thought ha, I used to be just behind this bloke, and then I thought I’m going to get back into this again and fell back in love with it and have been doing it since.
BRAD BROWN: Brilliant. I’m glad you mentioned the stint playing a bit of AFL, and for those who don’t know, Aussie rules football is pretty big in Australia. I think it’s probably the biggest team sport. It’s bigger than cricket and rugby, correct me if I’m wrong Jarrod, is that correct?
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, AFL in Australia is our biggest sport. Here in Queensland, we’re not that big in Queensland, but if you go down to Victoria, get all through Melbourne, even over by Western Australia, Perth, Freemantle, it’s the game that’s probably truly played Australian. Rugby league is pretty big in Queensland, New South Wales, but AFL is definitely the sport. So, I was pretty lucky, I did a bit of work with Brisbane Lions Reserves and things like that but it just wasn’t me. I was probably a bit scrawny to be honest, I got pushed around a fair bit out there so that made the decision to go back to triathlon pretty easy.
BRAD BROWN: Very different sports those as well. Obviously with the team dynamic in AFL, triathlon is a very solo sport. As much as you need a support system around you, on the day it’s about you and you’re not relying on team mates. Do you miss that about team sports, is that one thing you like about triathlon? Tell me about that dynamic.
Keeping yourself honest
JARROD HARVEY: Yea in some ways I miss parts. When you go for training you’ve got 40 other blokes around you and it’s kind of shared pain, it’s like half a pain type of thing. Triathlon, I’ve got a really good group of friends and mates that do triathlon that I can train with some of the time, but they also like the fact that when you go out and do a triathlon, it’s you. If something doesn’t go right on the day, unless it’s a mechanical or something like that, most times you can just look within and find where you can improve and it’s kind of, the balls in your court. Like if you have a good day, you’ve worked for it. If you haven’t put in the work and you have a bad day you kind of know that as well, there’s not really anyone else to blame, which is a good thing about triathlon. It keeps you very honest and that’s what I enjoy about it.
BRAD BROWN: Talk to me about the comeback after you decided you know what AFL was cool but you want to get back into tri, did you start with the sort of shorter ones? When did you sort transition over to the longer stuff?
JARROD HARVEY: So, pretty much with AFL stuff, I did a bit of gym stuff so I was always very, very scrawny as a kid. So, in AFL we did a fair bit of work in the gym, and I actually put on quite a bit of weight. So, prior going across to the AFL I used to sit probably about 78 kilos and when I was finished with the AFL I was nudging 90. I’m 185cm tall so you know I was nudging like 90 so I put on a fair bit of upper body mass on. Then the main thing was to try and drop some of that mass again because I was 90 kilos and if you want to get serious, that triathlon is pretty, pretty heavy to be at the point end of things. So, I kind of just worried about trying to strip some weight down to start with and then got back in to some little local Olympic distance but the intention was always to go 70.3 and ever since I got into triathlon when I was 14/13 there was always I wanted to do Kona one day. So, when I came back I figured I kind of missed the boat with the whole ITU thing, I was too old, by the time I came back I was 23 and most of the ITU guys had made it by then so I just went straight back into the long course. I thought that was best suited for my type of strength.
BRAD BROWN: What would you say is your wheelhouse as far as race distance goes? What is your, where do you think you perform best and suits you best?
JARROD HARVEY: I really want to be an Ironman professional in the future. I think even as a youngster I just had no speed and I just can’t run as fast as those guys off the bike and it’s something that I’m working with and continuing to work at now. But the longer the better for me. I really enjoy the challenge of Ironman. You can be really, really fit but you can still have a terrible day if you’re not smart and if you don’t get your nutrition right and there’s a lot of things that come together that make a good performance. It’s not just ability. Obviously ability plays a massive part and the training you’ve done plays a massive part but I think having and using your brain when you’re racing as well and making sure you’re not exceeding yourself too early. I mean the distance itself is a killer. You don’t need to help it at all.
BRAD BROWN: Yea, absolutely. Tell me, you mentioned when you first got exposed to Kona you always knew that that’s what you wanted or where you wanted to go as a teenager. Can you remember your first sort of exposure to Kona as an event and what your thoughts were when you first heard of it?
A tiny glimpse can light the fire in you
JARROD HARVEY: I actually remember, I never saw it on TV as a teenager growing up but I knew the guys like Crowie and Makochelaus were overseas. Especially being out in the bush as well. I’ve got a massive family so, I’m one of 10 kids and getting time on a computer to watch it on TV was pretty rare, there’s only one TV to go around. I knew that event existed but it probably wasn’t until I was 23 when I found out that there’s this whole 70.3 and Ironman. So, out of the sport that I really got interested in it. Then met up with some friends and they were just as interested if not more than I was and that was our Pete Jacobs who decided to do really well. Crowie was on the back and had some really good success and that kind of just got me hooked. Just the landscape, it just looked like a tough event and it’s just something that I’ve always wanted to do.
BRAD BROWN: Holy smokes, 1 of 10 kids, it must have been pretty competitive in that household.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, it definitely was. Deadset race downstairs to get your CocoPops in the morning. Flew out of bed like you’d messed up, but it was good. It goes back to what I said earlier, we played heaps of sport, Mom and Dad were always getting up us because we used to drop the mower down real low and low what mow and reach into the middle and we had really good backout cricket games cause we’ve got enough for a whole team. Yea, we just played everything at our house. Had to burn all our grass in front of the squash courts, tennis courts, our rugby league fields and soccer fields for the whole town and of course our own pool as well. We had it pretty good there.
BRAD BROWN: Are your siblings pretty sporty now?
JARROD HARVEY: Not so much now. They’re still active and things. I’ve got 1 that does 70.3’s and the other one is doing her first at Sunny Coast later this year. But they just kind of do it for fun and leisure but they were all pretty talented athletes at a younger age. My youngest sister Kelsy, actually got 3rd at Australian Nationals one year, she was very talented. But yea, they just do it for leisure now.
BRAD BROWN: All right, cool. Tell me a little bit about your first experience of Ironman and going that distance. Having done the shorter, maybe the odd 70.3. Talk to me about your first full distance Ironman.
Too much too soon leads to injury
JARROD HARVEY: My first full, really I think I rushed into it, or I did rush into it but it turned out alright. I was originally entered for Port Macquarie in 2015 but I just wasn’t ready and I kind of entered cause I just got jealous cause my mates had already done one and I just wanted to get it done. So, I entered it and then I wasn’t ready so I postponed until Busso which is December 2015. And then unfortunately as soon as I got the transfer that came through in my Ironman I got ITB problems in my left leg and left knee and I couldn’t run for ages and then I got that sorted. But because we treated the left leg so much I got it in the right leg. I was 6 weeks out of Busso and I hadn’t run more than 12k so I was thinking of all the pain. But my swimming had really improved over that time because I just swum, swum, swum.
So, I went to Busso, my main goal was just to beat one of my, well he’s my best friend and his time was 10:42. So that was my goal in my head, I just wanted to beat 10:42 and I got out the water, it was a really choppy day at Busso that year and the rain was coming in from the side. So I swam an hour which I was happy with for the conditions, and then I biked a 4:52, the biking is my go-to leg, and then somehow I managed to run a 3:32 and I came away with 2nd under my age division and a slot to Kona so I was absolutely wrapped.
BRAD BROWN: I’m sure. I mean going into that race obviously coming off that injury, you obviously didn’t go in with any expectations of bagging a Kona slot. It must have come as quite a surprise.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, 100%. I literally just went there to finish and I thought after this I can call myself an Ironman you know and all that sort of thoughts, no-one can ever take it away. And when I got out of the swim my, she wasn’t then my fiancee, my girl friend I actually asked her to marry me the day after the race. My girlfriend at the time said you’re coming 2nd and I kind of figured that there’d be 2 Kona slots for my age so then on the bike I just put the hammer down and managed to hold onto the run. They were coming for me on the run, but I managed to just hold on, so very, very lucky. Over the moon I must say.
Bagging a Kona slot in your first Ironman
BRAD BROWN: It must have been a cool feeling bagging that slot not really going there chasing it. We chat to a lot of athletes who work for years and put in the hard graft and maybe miss it by a spot or two. But going out first time out not expecting to get it and picking it up, it must take a bit of pressure off you.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, to be honest I felt pretty bad at the award ceremony cause Pete Murray, the commentator there had a little shpeel for everyone and I was the last age group, I was the 18 – 24 male at that point and I was the last age group to get announced and everyone else is saying, oh I’ve tried 10/15 times and then he said how many Ironmans have you done. I said it’s the first one, and everyone just clapped and yahoba’d and I felt kind of bad. I didn’t know how to take it. I kept going over to registration and double checking that there was actually 2 slots and that I wasn’t dreaming. I never expected to go over there and, especially because at 6 weeks out I was thinking of pulling the pin in and not going. All my family and partners said no just go and have a crack, you’ll finish it. Put this one under the belt then get another time so to get it on the first go is just out of this world, I couldn’t believe it.
BRAD BROWN: From a timing perspective, obviously Ironman Western Australia and Busselton like you said is in December. Kona the following year almost, it’s almost a year basically until Kona, was that a good thing or a bad thing? Would you have rather done it in, qualified a couple of months before and then used that as the buildup to Kona? You almost have to stop and then start again in the buildup to Kona after qualifying in December.
JARROD HARVEY: It’s a bit of a weird one because it’s the first qualifying race in Australia for Kona the following year. So, typically it gets a really good field going to that one. I’d actually changed coach for a previous coach. I went to being coached by Tim Reed in about March of 2015. I chatted with Reed after the race and he just said he actually thinks it’s perfect because I can get the whole build right for Kona. I don’t have the pressure of having a go to say that I can build Macquarie and then if I missed I would have chased the spot again at Cairns. And by that time you’ve done 3 to 4 Ironmans in a calendar year and you suddenly pretty fatigued. So I was pretty happy with the way it turned out and to get it so early it allowed me have a really good break and the pressure was off. Then I did Geelong 70.3 and 70.3 Sunny Coast and that worked really well up until Kona.
BRAD BROWN: That Sunny Coast is that a half or is that a full?
JARROD HARVEY: So I did Busso as my first full and then Kona was my 2nd time as a full.
BRAD BROWN: That’s interesting. Do you think that’s the way to go? Not having a, if you are qualifying that far in advance, not doing another full Ironman in the buildup to Kona, do you think that played to your strength?
The sweet taste of success
JARROD HARVEY:I think yes and no. I was definitely fresh. I got my build to Kona really, really spot on. I got there, I got used to the conditions but I knew probably a couple days out that I was going to have a good day if I put it all together. But then, you know I’ve seen some other people that qualified late at Cairns, which I think gives them just under 3 months turnaround to Kona and they still managed to nail it. So, I think for me just being out with a kind of just switch off training mode, and then just enjoy Christmas, enjoy the New Years period and then really set a plan and get those races right leading into Kona really helped me. Personally I think it was a good thing for me.
BRAD BROWN: And Busselton is quite a, it’s a fast course, it’s not the hilliest. It’s pretty flat by all accounts. Do you think that plays into your strength as well. Do you like those sort of courses or do you prefer the hillier, tougher ones?
JARROD HARVEY: For my strengths I actually prefer the hillier, the tougher ones so it probably worked in my favour. Everything just kind of felt really well for me. After that year it was probably the one year in racing memory where the rain was just coming in from the side, it was quite windy. So being a strong biker that really played into my hands and the way that the course is out there as well, it’s through that rain forest-type of terrain and then quite flat. So if you can get out of sight you kind of get out of mind and people just forget you’re up the road. So, it works really well. I just put power down early in the bike and managed to get a break and as I said just held on for the run. but typically for me I’d like the harder the bike course the better.
BRAD BROWN: Yea and it’s interesting, I’m contemplating doing Busselton at the end of this year and a lot of people look at it, a course that’s fairly flat and they think that’s easy, but they come with their own set of challenges. A flat course you’ve got to work all day. There’s no letting up, you can’t back off. It might look easy but it’s not.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea that’s right. It’s effectively like getting on a wind trainer for 5 hours, 5/6 hours and the road surface over there is, it’s not your hard mix you might find elsewhere. The seals are loose, it’s quite bumpy through some areas. So, yea it’s quite tough. At least with hilly courses at least you get the downhills to kind of recuperate a little bit and get your nutrition in but yea, a course like Busso, just being pancake flat, as I said it’s effectively like jumping on a wind trainer. You stop pedalling, you stop going anywhere, so it can be pretty tough.
BRAD BROWN: Not necessarily a good thing. Let’s talk Kona and your experience on the Big Island. It’s a mystical place. If I say the word Kona, what do you think?
Kona – you’ve just got to get there
JARROD HARVEY: Oh mate, I’m sitting here just smiling from ear to ear. As I said I’d seen it on TV and things but TV just does it no justice. If you’re a triathlon fan you’ve either got to get to Kona to compete one day or go to watch it. It’s just, it’s unbelievable. It goes triathlon crazy. I really hope to get back there again in 2017. Love the place.
BRAD BROWN: How long before race day did you get in? Did you plan some time to acclimatise and get used to the conditions on the island?
JARROD HARVEY: Yes, so teaching works really well. We get good holidays and things but the down side of being a teacher is you don’t get to pick when you take your holidays. We get set holiday times and if you take holidays outside of that it’s unpaid. So I try to minimise the amount of leave that I took. I chatted with Reidy beforehand so I flew out of Australia 10 days before and because of the time difference, actually landed 10 days out as well. So, I gave myself a good 10 days. The first 3 days off the plane I did really, really light training and Reedy had spoken to me about what to expect and things like that as well. So, I had the 10 days out in the hope of acclimatising and getting used to the heat.
BRAD BROWN: Is that enough? Do you wish you had more or could you have gone sooner?
JARROD HARVEY: I was pretty happy with 10 days actually. I think it was enough time to kind of soak up what Kona had to offer outside. Because when I got there, there was no tents set up yet. It was only just getting set up so Kona gave me a bit of a vibe what the town was like without it. You’d see a scattering of bikes, and people running and you know people taking it seriously. And a lot of the pros were already there obviously. But from about probably 5 to 7 days out the whole circus just rolled into town.
Set your plans early
There were bikes everywhere. I had a couple of mates who got there 2 weeks out, so 14 days out. If I had to not take leave for work and things like that I probably would have liked to get there maybe 12 to 14 days out but I think it can definitely be done on 10. I had a mate that got there 4 days out but that’s a little late and he tried there as well so I think it’s just a personal thing. As long as you’ve got your plan set early and you know what’s going to happen, you know what to expect you can kind of deal with it a bit better.
BRAD BROWN: And racing snakes as far as the eye can see, I’m sure.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, for sure.
BRAD BROWN: Was that intimidating? Did you think gee how did I end up here?
JARROD HARVEY: Yea, yea, it really was. I got off the plane there and just got there and you just see people running along Alii Drive and they have just not an ounce of fat on their body and you start thinking maybe I got here easily or maybe I haven’t done the work, I probably don’t deserve to be here but they’re all normal thoughts. Everyone’s going to think that as soon as they see someone that’s poking along Alii Drive at 3min a k but they never going to do a race day anyway. I just tried to take it all on board and the whole time I was just smiling from ear to ear. I was intimidated by being there but also really proud and happy to be there as well.
BRAD BROWN: As far as your performance goes, 11th in your age group. You had a pretty solid, if you look at your race and look at your splits, you made up time on each of the disciplines. You were 18th out of the water, 13th out on the bike and then finished 11th. So, you were going forward that’s always a good sign. Do you feel that, looking back on that race now, is there anything that you think that you could have done differently on the day that may have improved your performance?
JARROD HARVEY: In hindsight, I think I probably could have biked harder. The whole climb up to Hawi, until you’re there and you’ve experienced it, so getting there 10 days out I was lucky enough to go out with the car and drop off at the bottom of Hawi and ride up and down and climb and things like that. I had a lot of people back home watching and that really, really came on my result and the last thing I wanted to do is blow up big time on the marathon.
Have a plan – but also be flexible
I was really very weary that last 20k of the marathon so I, in hindsight, I probably held too many biggies back on the bike a fair deal I think but whose not to say that if I biked another 5 minutes quicker I could have gone another 20 minutes slow on the marathon as well. Overly I was really happy with my day. I was really, really happy with my swim to get out the water where I did. I rode pretty conservatively on the bike and I’m still happy that I got a 5:01 and then I was absolutely pumped with the marathon, a 3:22. I mean those conditions, I was happy with it and as you say I was content but I was still moving through the field. So, overall I was absolutely pumped with the day.
BRAD BROWN: Yea, I think that is a good sign. If you’re going backwards on the run that is a concern but you obviously had paced your race pretty well. As far as lessons that you’ve learnt out of Ironman, what would you say is the biggest lesson you’ve learnt out of the sport so far?
JARROD HARVEY: I think you’ve just got to back yourself up. I think that everyone’s got their strengths and everyone knows where their strengths lie and you’ve got to have a plan. But also be a little bit flexible. If things happen in the race you’ve got to be able to tinker your plans. Not make massive changes but tinker just to adapt to what’s going on in the race. Make certain you’re not left behind or you’re making the most of the skills that you’ve got.
On the whole, Ironman is one of those things, I think if you’ve got sort of natural ability and you’ve done a little bit of work, sometimes a 70.3, you can get away with if you haven’t really done all the work, but in Ironman there’s just nowhere to hide. You’re out there for the best of us 9 hours, and some people up to 17 hours if you haven’t done the work, you’re going to be shown out, it’s going to get you at some point so for me it’s just being really strict and being, with the teaching as well, having clear time lines every day about what time I need to leave, what time do I need to finish training. And just being quite structured and making sure that I’m strict enough but also have enough down time cause it can consume your life and if it consumes your life too much it can become detrimental as well.
Get the balance right when training for your Ironman
BRAD BROWN: Talk to me about, you mentioned the structured bit of your training and your life and getting that in order. That’s probably one of the biggest things and as far as e-mails go that I get with people trying to get the balance right when it comes to training for an Ironman and being competitive. It’s one thing just doing the miles but if you want to be competitive and be good at this thing, and to balance that work and family life and if you’re in a relationship. Like you say you’re engaged or if you’re married with kids. It’s difficult to keep all those balls in the air. How do you do it? What advice would you give to someone who’s struggling with the time management side of things?
JARROD HARVEY: I think for me it’s consistency over craziness. Some people get, you know I’m not a massive mileage person. With my teaching and the commitments and the amount of time that I want to spend with my partner, just for me to get the balance, I’m probably looking at on a massive [inaudible] during the school term, I’m probably doing maybe 15 / 16 hours. During school holidays when I’ve got the whole day and my partners at work, I really rev that up and I can get 25 hourish weeks, I call them my pro weeks. But for me it’s just about prioritising the key sessions of the week. If you’ve got those 3/4/5 key sessions per week, prioritise them to make sure that they can get done, spacing them out so that I’ve got enough time to recover and then kind of put in my commitments or my other training which might just be that basic aerobic which is obviously key, but if I was to miss a session I would prefer to miss that other than a key session.
And then early morning is a big one for me especially in summer being in Queensland being a PE teacher. It can nudge 40 degrees. We’ve just come off a heat wave here a few days. 5 /10 days in a row, 40 degrees. I’m a big believer if we can get out early, get the training done. Doesn’t matter how bad or how sluggish I feel after being on the oval all day in 40 degrees, the session is already in the bank, kind of thing. Early mornings at that rate kind of allows me to do a shorter session than the afternoon, and sitting at the table having dinner with your partner and still getting some sort of balance out there.
BRAD BROWN: It’s interesting you say getting it out early because I think we’ve all been guilty of it at some stage where you end up snoozing the alarm and then you end up negotiating for the rest of the day about when are you going out, when are you going out but it’s one of those things if the alarm goes off stop and get out of bed and do what you have to do, cause at some stage it’s going to have to be done and you might as well get it over and done with.
JARROD HARVEY: Yea that’s right. I can put my hand up and say it’s only probably the last 10 months when I’ve started to think if I want to do this properly I really need to knuckle down and previously I was really guilty about I’d snooze the alarm. And as you say you get to the afternoon and you think ah, I’m supposed to get through 3 sessions today and I’ve got to pick one. And ultimately you know if you miss one session a week that’s 52 sessions a year that someone else has probably done, that you haven’t done because you slept in.
One of my little tricks is I put my phone away from my bed with the alarm on it so that I have to physically get out of bed to get the phone. Once I’m up, my partner doesn’t let me back in.
BRAD BROWN: I’v tried that. My wife gets so angry because she’s the one that has to get out of bed and turn the alarm off. Jarrod, what’s the biggest mistake you’ve made in your triathlon career and what have you learnt from it?
JARROD HARVEY: I had one race in, it was actually Geelong 2016. I went out and I just thought I was going to set the world on fire and I went out and I hit the front pretty early in the bike of my age group and I just biked my legs to beans. I just got off the bike and I was gone and I literally just legged around on the run, and it was after that race, it was when as I said it was quite about then that I was missing a lot of sessions.
I knew I had a bit of natural ability to work with but it was at that point that I realised that if I’m actually serious about this that you’ve got to do the sessions. You see the professionals, they can run well after a really, really hard and intense bike, and it was at Port Macquarie which is quite a tough bike course, and it was that day that I kind of realised that I need to make a decision, you either give it everything I’ve got and start doing every session or just be content with rolling around in the age groups and that sort of thing. So that was probably a hard lesson.
I went there with big hopes and I finished well down in the age group and everyone was asking me what was going on and it was at the point where I had managed, I was knocking off at [inaudible] these sponsors, and at that point they were kind of saying but what happened there and I didn’t have any answers for them. That was the point where I just had to look deep and say well now you’ve got your [inaudible] you must go work. so, I learnt the hard way that day.
BRAD BROWN: Jarrod, goals wise, in an ideal world, if we have this conversation 20 years from now, what would you have wanted to have achieved in your triathlon career? What’s on the cards, what’s your plans?
The Kona win is my dream
JARROD HARVEY: Oh mate, a massive, massive gala. I would be absolutely pumped forever. I know it’s probably every triathletes goal but I’d love to win Kona. I’d love to win, I want to win as an age grouper as well before turning pro. So hopefully if I do well at Taupo in a couple of weeks then I’ll be getting to Kona again hopefully. I think I’ve got the ability to be a professional that can do well race in race out and if I can look back in 20 years time and have a chat with you in 20 years time, you might find my name in a professional result sheet somewhere in the top 10, I think that’s a win.
BRAD BROWN: Awesome. Well Jarrod it’s been great catching up. Thanks for your time today on The Kona Edge. I look forward to getting you back on to talk a little bit about the individual disciplines. Your swim, your bike, your run and then we’ll chat a little bit about nutrition as well but we’ll save that for another time. Thanks for your time today.
JARROD HARVEY: It’s amazing. Thanks Brad. Anytime mate.